BPM NEC 2011 Interview with The Legend Danny Rampling and Delementary in the Mix

0:00 This is just random footage BPM 2011 and this is in the hotel

Alright, this is just random footage BPM 2011 and this is in the hotel. This is day one, well no it's not day one, it's Friday actually. The day before the BPM we're in the hotel and we're just doing a bit of live streaming live on BlogTV and there you go. Got the deck set up, got the PC there, speaker and we're just having a bit of a mix back to back Dave and I and this is on Friday night and There's the webcam, and the webcam is on my case, which is situated on the bed, so of course it can bounce. And there you go. But anyway, Punk Style TV, and this is what you should expect. All good. Hi. By the way, I will be doing better quality videos, so I suggest you go and check them out. This will be in, say, low quality. The others will be in sort of, well, hopefully HD, if not worse than that. No! Whoa! Better! Sorry. Okay. My God, there's two of them. There's one there. There's one there. Bloody hell, Angela. I thought you only had one. Dave and I, in the mix, on TV, the day before BPM 2011.

A bit more random stuff. We're here in the room, in the hotel and Mark is on the mix on BlogTV right now. Here we go. Alright, here we are. Bit of a punk bit. Excuse me. Look. And here we are in the hotel and we're still streaming. What? On blog. We've got Mr Mark Hughes in the mix, Pioneer Mark Hughes doing his bangs. Dave in the bathroom. Dave in the bathroom. Respect. No, he's chilling out. You know, I mean that's it. We're in a hotel and we're just like plugged in loads of shit and we're doing it, aren't we? We're doing it. Put it this way, they'd rather come in and open the door and see us doing this, rather than come in and open the door and see us all behind each other. Exactly, exactly, not a good idea. I'd rather get told off for this than that. Exactly. Don't even know where we'll be able to see these going out. So, I'd like to show you our minibar, there it is. It's a minibar because it's very small, and if I open this for you now, and open this, and inside the minibar we have a hat.

A bottle of Carlsberg Export. Look at that. Marvelous. Oh, shit. Technical aisle over there. Laundry service available. Not now, though. And, well, you know, just stuff, usual stuff you'd associate with a hotel. Thank you very much. We're in Birmingham, NEC, BPM, 2011. Live streaming on BlogTV. Well, well, well, well. First time I've been on this side of the camera for once. BPM 2011, we're in some hotel about 10 minutes away from Yanny's C, where we held the BPM event. Jonathan, DJ Tutor, on the CDJ and DJM350, broadcasting on BlogTV. Spinning up with the AKG headphones as well. I don't know what model they are exactly, so don't quote me on that. By the way, Dave is still in the bathroom. He's actually falling asleep. Me and Jay are probably the last two up. We are major night owls. Yeah. So... This video is already going to be uploaded before we say come check out BlogTV, but if we upload it tonight so it's uploaded for tomorrow, we will say come check out tomorrow because we may fetch the 2000s back. Maybe. Just maybe. So let's see where Dave is.

4:57 I've got to look through this whole thing so it looks a bit weird

Hey Dave! How you doing? I've got to look through this whole thing so it looks a bit weird. You enjoying tonight? Yeah, it's all good mate, yeah. All good. Dave's had to go on the decks, you enjoyed it? Good, yep. Are we going on the decks tomorrow? Most definitely, yeah. Are we going to show Wharfdale how it's done? Most definitely, yeah. With their own speakers? With our own speakers, yes. Good. Yep. I'm so jealous of that bathroom, check that en suite and everything. And I like walking and then my bed's there. As Jay says, practice and enjoy. Alright, BPM 2011, and they are interesting. This is a bit of like random video footage, and if you want to see any more on a BPM, I have done a load of...

Ladies and gentlemen, we're here at BPM NEC 2011 and I have got the legend, it's an honour actually to be next to Danny Rambo because you are one of the pioneers, originators of like chucking house music together. That's right, I'm blessed to have been at the forefront of the whole musical explosion here, look at it. Look at it today, it's such a global business. This is the first time I've been here, and the energy that's here, the exhibitors, the people that are here, it's a broad circle of DJs. You've got your club DJs, your hip-hop DJs, your mobile DJs, your bedroom DJs. This is a fantastic gathering of DJ industry. BPM, great. But then I want to talk about your online book. Right, okay. Your tutoring. What inspired you to maybe take that step? What inspired me? I think, you know, whatever you do, you have a world of experience. It's about sharing that experience like you do on YouTube. And I went to an internet business seminar and there was a guy talking about e-books. This was like three and a half years ago.

9:19 Let's create an e-book on DJing

E-books were not really in the public domain generally in the UK. Of the business world, yes. And his words were, what's your passion? Everyone in this room, ask yourself and then go out and create an e-book. So really it was a no brainer. Yeah. Okay. Let's create an e-book on DJing. And there were a few in the marketplace from the States, I think there was only one from the UK. And we went off and we spent six months with my business partners Ben Brophy and Jerry Frenpong. That's where we actually met properly at this seminar. Went off, created the e-book. Globally, that's done very well. And then a publisher saw the e-book online, the digital book, and he said, I think this could be a hard copy book. Excellent. And he got us to deal with Oran Press in London, and the book, the hard copy, was released December 2010. Fantastic. So with that book, we also included a four-hour DVD where I'm interviewing industry leaders like Pete Tong, Mark Marott, who managed Paul Oakenfold's career, which he taught.

In-depth about, he was also associated with U2 with their management. There's Simon Dunmore from Defected Records and you know he's one of the most successful house labels in the UK. There's Joey Negro on the production side of things and the DJing side. David Morales who's a Grammy award winning DJ from New York. There's Matt Playford who's here reviewing technology, great UK producer and DJ. So all these people up close and personal. That's priceless information. It's very hard to get these people to sit down and have like 30 minutes with them and talk about their experience and some of the pitfalls and the highs and lows of their own careers. So that is added value to the book itself. Part one of the book is all about the technical side of DJing.

And part two, we've included more of the lifestyle and the psychology behind DJing and the mindset. Because now in today's marketplace, you've got to be very up-to-speed with business. It's so essential marketing, how to market yourself. And as a DJ coming into the business, or even established DJs, all of that information hasn't been widely out there. So we've included that. There's a wealth of resources. There's hundreds and hundreds of links, which would take... Thousands of hours to compile. So you've got it, it's there, in the one place? Well I'd like to, I feel that it is a reference manual for the industry. A lot of the colleges have taken it, SAE schools and point blank, they're really happy with the book, their students are happy with it. So the book itself, it's got longevity. It's taken a long while to create this book and a lot of work as you know, you're out there coaching people and that takes a lot of time.

Thank you for watching. So what I will do, I'll put a hyperlink in the description of this video that will take you directly to his e-book. That's very important. Lastly, because I know you're a very busy man, you've got to go. One question. If there was one thing you could say to the new DJ out there, some inspirational tip that maybe takes them from the bedroom out there, what would it be? Right, well... Don't listen to your friends if they're telling you that, you know, you're never going to make it or you're not good enough because now we're at a nexus point with the technology that's available and this whole new wave of digital product that's come onto the marketplace is transforming the way we DJ. An exciting time to be coming into the industry and for established people like myself, 25 years as a DJ. I've embraced digital DJing. I use Traktor.

And I think, you know, it's opened up a whole new realm of creativity. There's an abundance of technology at our disposal to use. And coming into the industry as a DJ, you know, stay focused on what you're doing. You know, some people become... Look, let's put it this way. David Guetta did not... He's a hugely successful multi-selling artist, fills out stadiums. David Guetta was DJing for about 18 years before he finally broke it. It just didn't happen immediately for him. Some people, it can happen. Being a producer is key to it as well. And again, the technology we have, it's simplified. Production of music, it's much quicker to produce tracks. That is also an essential part of being a DJ now. You get your music out there and heard and you make great music and then it gets into the Beatport Top 10. You're on your way to an international DJ career. So many DJs have carved careers through coming in and producing good music and now they're out there playing on the circuit worldwide week in, week out. But it's about being focused.

14:05 The DJ Tutor, the DJ Tutor, the DJ Tutor

The DJ Tutor, the DJ Tutor, the DJ Tutor. If you're jealous of somebody else because they're a little bit ahead of you, there's always going to be someone in front of you and there's always someone behind you coming right up who's going to take the next crown. But if you're good, you're passionate, and the most important thing is to be passionate about music. And all the rest follows. About yourself as well. Absolutely. I truly believe there's too many people out there who are so good at what they do yet they just feel as though like oh I can't do it, I'm not good enough. They need to almost tell themselves on the inside, you can do it. You can do it. And if you continue to say that to yourself, you will actually do it. Totally. And back to the book, part two, is about a mindset and positive mental attitude. And it does benefit you because I've been very fortunate to spend a lot of my time, invested a huge amount of time into self-development and learning these skills.

DJ Tutor And get paid for doing that as well when you reach a certain level. But you don't come into the industry to make up the sole basis of making money. You come in with passion for music and the love and the fun of music, and then you get good at what you're doing, like any profession. Whether you're off for soccer, football or whatever it may be. You take your time, you develop your craft, you hone your skills, you become good, you get noticed and you go out there. You've got to be persistent. You've got to constantly be persistent and not give up when every door is closing in your face. And that's what sorts the week out. True words. Seriously, true words. I keep on saying this. It's push yourself. And when someone says no, go away. When you send 100 CDs to 100 clubs and you get no answers, then send another 100 more. And another 100. And another 100.

This is, I mean, I have done a lot of interviews but you do make it perfect sense. Perfect sense. You get noticed and also it's about networking as well, you know. I just had a 16 year old kid come up to me here at this event and, you know, nice kid and I have to give him 10 out of 10 for networking. I said, how long have you been playing? Six years. I said, well look, 10 out of 10 for networking. He's given me a CD with his calling card on it. And he had the balls to come up and say, I'm going to listen to that CD because there's something about him. You know, he stood out. There's thousands of people in there but he's taken the necessary steps to go out and network with people and that's very key to success because you can meet that one person that can open a door for you. Yeah, well it could be you. Exactly, yeah. Alright, Danny, please finish off with practice and enjoy. Just say it. With what? Say, I've got a saying known around the world, it's called practice and enjoy. Can you finish off with that? Practice and enjoy. Thank you.

17:57 Screen able, minutes long

I will be the loser, hands down. We're backstage and it's pretty exciting. We're about to go out and do my four-day mix. Jonathan's going to come in on it and explain what we're doing. I've been known to look on YouTube at how to change light bulbs, but that's just me. I'd like to welcome onto the stage for a very special appearance The YouTube sensation that is DJ Tutor, and for a DJ set with him, Delimentary. Thank you very much. Alright ladies and gentlemen, introducing myself very quickly, my name's Jonathan, I give free online lessons, it's called DJ Tutor, so if you want to become a DJ, if you already are a DJ, there could be a tiny little bit of information out there. Also what I am now doing, is people have asked me to do one-to-one lessons, so yeah, if you want to come to my house and have a one-to-one lesson...

I do charge, but at the end of the day we can have some fun, eat chocolate cake, get drunk at night if you're over the age of 18, do some live streaming and hopefully I'll teach you how to become a DJ as well. Alright, so what is DJing? Of course it's mixing music. Well, the gentleman by my left, which could be to your right actually, has taken it to the next level because he doesn't use one turntable, two or three, he actually uses four. So very shortly this guy here, Delimentary, is going to be doing a full deck. Here we go. It is wonderful, it's amazing and believe me it does blow your mind because his hands are rather fast. Now after he's done his set he will be doing question and answer. So in other words if you want to know a little bit about what he's actually doing then stick your hand up, we'll bring you up here if you want and you can ask him your question. Also what he will do is he'll run through certain parts of the mix to show you exactly

How it's put together. This particular mix may only be about 5 or 6 minutes long, but it might have taken him about a month to put together. But, as you will see, it's perfect. But then again, life is about mistakes. We all make mistakes, and if he makes a mistake like Grandmaster Flash, you know what? You rise above it and you just put up with it, put up with it, sorry, get on with it. Now, how are we doing? Are we nearly there? Oh yeah, the mic's not coming through the monitors, is it? Is it? No, that's cool. Okay, we'll play. You can give a call out there, yeah? Okay. Yeah, so what we're going to talk about, this mix is going to be about 11 or 12 minutes long. It's quite fast and furious. And I'm not sure if we've got it on screen as well. We're able to get something to the screen. You might be able to catch some of the action. But for those of you that are interested in perhaps conceptualizing a four-deck mix or a mini-mix of some description, I'll describe to you afterwards exactly from conception

22:30 The DJ Tutor is the best guitar player in the world

Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time in a BPM, here in the main arena, witness Del Amentri. The DJ Tutor is the best guitar player in the world. The DJ Tutor offers a wide range of different types of mixers, including all-in-one mixers. The DJ Tutor offers a wide range of mixers, including all-in-one mixers. From the initial concept to here, what's the time scale? You're looking at about probably a day to sit there and really um and ah about what tunes you're going to put in it. I sit there at the PC, create a black empty folder and go right, what do I want this mix to be about? What is this all about? So I'll sit there one by one dragging tunes in, taking some out and I'll always end up with more tunes in there than I actually need because I know that

As you've seen from the performance, each track can last from anything like 10 seconds to up to like 45 for a minute. One second? Yeah, so I've got kind of an idea of whether or not I'm going to be over time. I'm conscious of the media at the moment. People like to consume media very quickly. So I'm conscious to try not to make mixes that are too long, trying to hold the audience in. So yeah, so you're looking at about a day selecting the tunes, again timing roughly right. And then probably, if I was to sit down and do it non-stop, if I had no other commitments, it would probably be maybe two or three days, working days, sitting there editing. Okay, I mean one thing that I want to point out as well, I do say this to a lot of people, they say, I like mixing house, I like mixing soul, rap, hip hop, but what Dell has proved categorically here today, full stop, is...

37:02 It works, it's great, it's marvelous

Mixing different genres. It works, it's great, it's marvelous. People should do it more. Do you agree? Yeah, absolutely. Try not to be blinkered when you're putting one of these things together. Obviously if you like a drum and bass DJ or a dubstep DJ or a commercial DJ, that's going to have an effect on what kind of stuff you put together in a mix. So try it. I hate these corporate phrases, but try and think outside the box. Even if you have to stick to your own musical genre, try and put something in there that's going to sort of make you stand out from the rest. Something a bit comical, something that's technically perhaps not been done before or has been done before, something that you could do just as well or even better. Okay, alright, I'll tell you what we're going to do now. A couple more things. Firstly, is anyone out there got any questions for Del?

Just stick your hand up and if you want to, I'll come over or you can come up here on stage. Sorry, I've got a microphone here for questions. Oh, okay. Please, please do it because, you know, maybe a day from now you're going, if only I'd have asked him how he did that. So, you know, ask the question. In fact, the personal people who ask the questions are the intelligent ones because like you said, you're the ones thinking outside the box. Come on, any questions? Okay, gentleman, is that gentleman over there? How do you start doing your ideas?

Is it just like getting a playlist together in your head or is it just like through experience and listening to specific beats of specific styles that you get on you? Yeah, thinking about some of the mixes I've done in the past, in a previous life as a commercial DJ, which is nothing to be ashamed of let me tell you. I would do mixes which are relative to perhaps some mics I'm doing so once I did a pre-call It just depends what you want out of the mix. If you want to create a mix which is for a particular type of crowd, then do that. But if you're a dubstep DJ, do that. Just another quickie, have you ever thought about incorporating classical music? Incorporate what, sorry? Classical music.

Classical music, that's a really great idea. I've always wanted to, and it's something we're working on with a couple of other artists, me and Jonathan have got a video stuffed away where we came up to his house and had a bit of a ball one day at a very fuzzy night.

41:49 No, it's completely gone now

And Jonathan got his drum set out and we were having a riot of a jam, weren't we? We've still got that video. We ran it. It was not published yet. But I've actually spoken to some musician friends of mine about coming in and working on some tracks with me and I would sincerely love to do something like that. You know, the BBC live prompts, the electric prompts thing. I'd love to do something like that. It's a really cool idea that I'm working on. Cool, alright. Ladies and gentlemen, any more questions at all? Please, just answer it. We can take some more questions in a second if you want. There's a gentleman down here, we'll take a question from him. We're going to just run through a bit more of the creative process of the bits in a minute. You might be inspired to have some more questions after that. Yes, sir. Just wondering, have you ever had problems like DJing without licensing, like with certain tracks or anything? Personally, no.

When I used to work for the corporates many moons ago, I left that kind of scene just before that was starting to come in and we were starting to get random visits from the likes of PRS and whatnot. And a lot of the corporates now, and I'm not sure if they still do this, somebody might be able to enlighten me, I think they insist that you have, you know, that you... If you get any visits, you have to give them your laptop and stuff like that, and they check the tracks, and then all the ins and outs of what track. Because you know sometimes when you, and I'm not condoning this in any way, but when you do download a track or a friend sends you a track and you put it on your laptop, it's often got little attachments on it which say what torrent it was downloaded from and stuff like that. And the guys at PRS and whatnot, they're really savvy to stuff like that, and that's why they check all the laptops and stuff like that. Personally, I've not had any problems like that.

Most of the music that I play out at my gigs these days is all from friends who are producers. It's all original material, so... Alright, cheers. Nice one, thank you. You're welcome. Alright, are we going to... Yeah, in fact, I think what we're going to do now is Del's going to go through the particular mix. I'm not texting my mates, by the way. I've got a list of things here that I'd like to point out to you that you might find of interest. So, from the initial concept of what kind of mix you're going to put together, I have it in my head, as I've told you, we get all the tracks together. Then we go to the editing process. So what you have to imagine when you get to this is you've got, and everyone's kind of got access to these little wave editor things like cool edit and what's the logic one? No, it's completely gone now. And you can top and tail, you can capture the essence of the track, the mix of the track, but you can top and tail it, you can edit out three chords of the track or do it to exactly how you want it so you can have a simple beat that comes in which then eliminates

The DJ Tutor offers a wide range of sound effects, including bass, drums and drums. The DJ Tutor offers a wide range of sound effects including bass, drums and drums. The DJ Tutor has a track that's got its build-in, it's got its drop-down and then it's got a beat coming out. That beat will actually continue on its own for two minutes just in case I've got a track that's playing nearly, you know, if it was like 30 seconds long and all of a sudden something's gone wrong here and I can't load the track and I've got to improvise very quickly. Now I, you know, some people, not all of us are very skilled at using the loop facilities in a very tight way but I would put like an exit plan on the end of each track so

You top and tail all of these tracks together, one by one. You create individual ins and individual outs. You've got to think how you're going to link. You've got to mentally think, how am I going to go from one track to the next? Try not to do the same effects in between each transition. So one, you might do a simple scratch transition into the next track. Another one, you might use filters coming in. Another one, hot cues. Try and keep it as interesting as possible as you move through the journey. So you edit all your tracks together. You get them all into the order that you want, but what I suggest you would do is as you finish your first edit, you title it 10 and then the title of the track, okay? Because then while I don't do it from one, and I've made this mistake a number of times and turned up to do a mix, and all the mixes are all jumbled up, if you title everything from 10, so 10, 11, 12 and onwards, it all...

46:04 By the time I move the tempo up here

...files up in numerical order on the disc when it comes to burning. If you do it from 1, it ends up going to 9, then... It goes... I don't know. 57? Yeah, it just goes all over the place. So title 10, so your first track will be title 10, and then the track title, then onwards. And then everything when you burn the discs will be in complete numerical order, and they'll be exactly how you find them. We've got four minutes, by the way. Have we got four minutes left? Yeah, the bus is... Now we've got that one. How long have we got? No, it is about four minutes. Okay, I'll quickly run through the rest. So you burn your board discs, they're data discs, identical discs, so whatever player I'm on, if I've lost my track, I know I can go to any disc and find exactly where I am in the mix. Obviously, if like me, you're slightly more comfortable transforming with your left deck, that could present a problem. You've got to try and keep any kind of transforming effects to make sure they're on the left side.

In light of the fact that we haven't got an awful lot of time, should we go into a quick demonstration of one of them? Okay, yeah. I'll tell you what I'm going to do now, is what Dale's going to do, take a certain part of the mix and just do a demonstration. I'm going to try and talk, explain what he's doing, which would probably be virtually impossible, but we'll see what happens. What we've got here, we've got a track, it's an old 70s track, Don't leave me this way, you all know that track. It's the originals by Harold Melvin. This is a bit jazzed up by some guys from Germany called Fuckonomics and they're amazing. So, this is the intro. Alright, and what we came out on, Pioneer 12, Wobble Acker. So, I came out of the Wobble Acker, which is this. Well, that came in at quite a low speed because the previous track was much lower in tempo. So, I used...

I use this technique. As I increase the tempo on that, I increase the tempo on the tapping there. So by the time I move the tempo up here... See, I've got a bit of tempo there but you didn't really notice it. It kind of did it organically, but didn't. As the, to come into the crescendo of that tune, I got hold of the communards, good old Jimmy Somerville, bless him, and I used this section here. I took a lot in the editing process, I took a lot of the bass out of that because it was completing the build up of this. So I used this kind of touching the platter technique to get to the level. That kind of thing. So I'll do this quickly and you'll see exactly where I'm coming from. So, here we go. Right.

50:56 Please welcome Dan Guest

At this point I take the bass out of the wobble. Let's do that more in flat. I can't get a feeling on this step. Sorry, sorry. There it is, there it is. We had a load ball of these planned to show you but I think, what's our time? Where's our chaps? Where's the guys? It's probably, it's probably, sorry? Oh we've still got five? Brilliant! Fantastic! Hello, how do you mix without headphones? Well it's quite easy because I've practiced this mix probably about 200 times. But, that said, there are occasions where I've had to slip them on. Perhaps in venues where something's perhaps gone wrong, the sound quality is not quite right, or something's gone wrong with the track and the data disks after all, it gets scratched and dirtied, something often goes wrong, sometimes I have to stick them on. As you can see, I've got them here ready just in case and I'm going to slip them on. But I know each and every one of these disks, inside and out, exactly where they are, so I can generally go from place to place very quickly and know exactly where I am, so that's how it works.

Also, one thing I've got to point out, which I say to a lot of people, when he was doing his set, I mean, it was virtually impossible for any of us to do that, but he was actually enjoying himself. He looked as though he was enjoying himself and that's something that every single DJ out there has got to realise. It doesn't matter whether you're just doing a transition every five minutes or you're doing like Del Boy, you're doing a transition every second. If you can prove to the crowd that you're enjoying yourself, then you get that good positive vibe over to them. And then in turn they'll actually appreciate you as well. I don't get it. It's usually far out. So, yeah, delementory.com, check out my website. Loads of videos and stuff up there on my productions as well. And you have a website too, sir? I have a website, djtutor.com. It's basic free online lessons, anything and everything. Some are random, some are interesting, some are comedy, and it's all good fun. And we're both on Facebook as well, facebook.com slash delementory. Yours is DJ Tutor. Something like that. Yeah, check us both out.

And I appreciate your attention today. Shall we finish this off with practice and enjoy? Thank you ladies and gentlemen, I appreciate your time. Ladies and gentlemen can we have a massive round of applause for Dell Elementary and DJ Tutor. I would like to welcome on behalf of you all at BPM on this Monday afternoon one of the Midlands most recognised up-and-coming DJs. Please welcome Dan Guest. Alright, last day finishing BPM note. How's it been for you Mark? It's been a very big experience and I'd say anybody that's never been to it before, you need to come here. Yeah, it is pretty hectic isn't it really? And I think you've got to have a lot of energy to come to a place like this. Stamina, and God knows what else.

A sense of humour, definitely. We've gone round in a circle. We have gone round in a circle so we must have passed it. A square. A square, gone round in a square. So there you go, this could be the last clip for BPM 2011. There'll be one next year and it'll be bigger and better. I will say practice and enjoy in case this is the last part and see you soon. This guy right here. How's it going dude? And I'm gonna film with you all. Oh are you filming? Yeah. This doesn't have any pictures, right? Alright, we'll do it like this, I guess. I've got a better idea. Sarah, can you hand them over to Sarah? Alright, Sarah's going to film with two hands. Yeah, that's it. Right, right, right. How's it been for you? It's been good. Beautiful weather and fun people and I enjoyed it a lot.

I got it, go on. I've done three of these in the last six weeks. Yeah, that must move you up. I've seen all this shit before. It's about the people. And talking to them and finding out what they're doing and listening to what they have to say and giving you positive feedback on what you're doing. That's what it's about. The feel of vibe I get from people out there who know you is I've told everybody this and it's very true. I don't think I've ever said it on camera though but what happened to me I didn't ask for it, but it happened. And I reacted how I reacted to it. I didn't plan to react that way. I didn't try to react that way. And much like I compare it to when I talk to soldiers from Vietnam and they'll tell me their stories and I always say to them, there's no way I could have done that. There's no way I could have been a novice. No way I could have handled that. You don't know that. You probably would have been fine.

So you're in this position, you don't know how you're going to handle things. Because I'm in a forker position as well, but I just fucking handle it. I just get on with it. No one knows how they're going to handle the situation if you're there. It's hard, but also what does help? It's like the young lady there holding the camera. Even in a little way she's helping me. Her dad is helping me immensely. Oh, of course. You know, the guy over there, Dave, Paul, everyone helps me. And without that, like say you, you know, it could... We're just going to keep on going. What happens, happens. In the meantime, we're still doing it. If I come back more than I am today, then that's cool. But if I can do it like this, it's going to be better doing it like that. If that makes sense. Should we finish this up?

With the inspiring words of practice and enjoy. Thank you.

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